The electronic version of the Riv Reader was published today.
Open the Rivendell Reader →
Posted 5.4.11 in Industry News | Bookmark or Share
Oh my word, why not just make it a regular PDF file, Rivendell?? I despise this kind of faux-book/faux-magazine format. It’s impossible to read easily on my netbook. :(
I have to admit, I’d prefer a simple downloadable PDF as well.
There doesn’t appear to be any way to download this either. I tried printing the whole document to a PDF writer (CutePDF), but it failed to open properly. It did “print” a couple of pages at a time to the PDF writer, but I’m not doing that for 40 pages of text just so I can read it on my preferred device.
Bummer. Rivendell has the absolute right to put their publication out in whatever e-format they want to. I also have the right to be disappointed in this one. :(
It’s funny how it’s hosted on a website called “keeptrees.com” but instead of a save as pdf option you only have the option to print it out.
Oh well… I’ll skip this issue if the only version available is a flash based faux book.
I’d go so far as to call it unreadable in its current form. Ironic that PDF, the “lugged steel frame of digital documentation”, is not offered. Say it ain’t so, Grant!
I was able to print it with the CuteWriter (free version) but it took a little while and nearly 1gb of ram.
42 is listed on their website as free:
with the promise that it’s now free for everyone. There’s also a link to a PDF of 42. Let’s hope they continue the tradition when they update their webpage with 43.
Not iPad friendly = fail. Sorry, Grant, et al. I appreciate the effort but I never read stuff on my computer any more. And printing it out? Save the trees! BTW, PDF works marvelously well on the iPad so you don’t need to make it into an app. Not that the RR reader wouldn’t make an awesome app. :)
On my Mac I just printed it, and in the Mac’s Print Dialog I specified “Save as PDF”. Done! Now I can read the PDF with a decent PDF reader.
That said,the interface, and I use the term loosely, of that web site gets about an D- in my book. A classically over-engineered example of how to turn a simple task into a totally klunky mess.
I’ve been reading e-books since the old Palm (actually Handspring) days, so I’m not a retrogrouch in this matter. But I see a LOT of this kind of clunky faux-paper style of document these days. They can only be read comfortably on large monitors and faster processors. Honestly, I just don’t understand why someone tries to duplicate a paper “experience” on a monitor like this. It’s weird and clunky and just not that useful.
At least it’s not in my world.
I’ve wondered how Grant has the time to continue writing these lengthy while running a company and designing stuff at the same time, but I’ve now realized that he’s long stopped thinking about what he’s writing, since he always says the same thing. And I suppose that since it basically reads as marketing material, he can kill two birds with one stone on the budget…
It took me a while to get used to the format, but after I figured it out, I enjoyed reading several articles. I bookmarked it and will go back. Yes, it was a little clunky. But I focused on content.
Too hard to read.
It’s a great resource that should be pdf so that I can load it to my Kindle.Or html/plaintext so that I can use Openoffice to convert to pdf. Here’s hoping they do that and also come up with a good stem bike mount for Kindle…we’re having the darnedest time trying to rig one up on our own.
Even with the funky e-reader, I tried to read through the first article but pretty soon I was sickened with the overwhelming smugness that permeates every Rivendell publication. I had to step out for a breath of air, and I feel much better now..
I concur with the complaints about the format. It is horrific. Rivendell, please give us the PDF version. As for the smug comments about how wonderfully a Mac handles the document, it’s great that it does, but it would be nice have a) a version that works on iPad and b) a version that works for 90 plus percent of the computers in use today – the open source PC.
I like the reader and have been looking forward to the new one for a while, but unless we get a PDF format, it’s unlikely that I’ll be reading it any time soon.
Perhaps it’s because I’ve met them and they were very nice and down to Earth, but I interpret the Reader as “folksy”, though admittedly with some strong opinions throughout. I feel the industry could use more people like Grant who offer alternatives to the mainstream.
BTW – I saw on the Riv newsgroup that they’re going to post a PDF of the Reader to their website sometime soon…
I’m sure they’re nice guys; they make great product and when you know someone you’re inclined to interpret their writing differently. I’m pretty much the target audience (owned an XO-1 for years..), but Grant’s writing has landed as smug and self-satisfied with me for decades now. I get why he does it, I’ve just never agreed with his approach although it looks like he’s been successful doing it.
I don’t personally find it smug either. I don’t agree with everything Grant says, but I do kinda like the “just talking” sort of tone. I often enjoy reading articles by people with strong opinions.
For easy reading it use the site to “print” it, but then pick “Microsoft XPS Document Writer”, and save it to an XPS file. Then double click that, and it’ll open up in MS IE, in a nice normal scroll up and down format.
Grant has apparently taken down the link from his own website. I don’t understand why.
I find it refreshing that Grant has the tenacity to publish his thoughts about his business and quite frankly lifestyle in an open not corporate (what is the message we are sending ) way and let the chips fall on the sales numbers.
Folks, he states about $2 million a year in sales. Not much for a bike company.
I believe he takes his responsibility to “make payroll” seriously. ( Not a lot of that in corporate America today. More what is in it for me)
My dealings at least over the phone with Riv have been genuine .
Just a thought.
I wanna go on the record here. I complained about the format and non-iPad friendly nature of the site (constructive criticism, I hope). But I have nothing but total respect for Grant and the Riv gang. I don’t bike much now due to a hip problem so I’m not even a Riv customer anymore, but I will always think of Riv as a great time in my biking life. And I have always thought of Grant as a visionary and someone I would emulate, would that I had the drive, talent, and guts to get into the bike biz–such as it is.
PS. I probably could have gotten off my lazy ass and made a PDF on my Mac in the time I took to complain. Negative 1 in my karma pool.
It seems to me that we’re lucky that Grant spends a huge amount of time and effort to create a publication that we can alll read for free. I don’t agree with everything Grant says (for example, I love my carbon fiber frame and STI shifters), but I still look forward to reading it.
@Perry: I totally agree. My only gripe was this particular sort of e-format, not with the content, or with Rivendell itself.
I just have a personal bugaboo about electronic documents that try to pretend to act like paper documents.