Zimbale 2 Liter Saddle Bag

The Zimbale 2 Liter Saddle Bag is the third in a trio of saddle bags Zimbale sent us to evaluate. The 2 Liter is essentially a smaller, simpler version of the 11 Liter Saddle Bag we reviewed in detail earlier this month. Like its big brother, the 2 Liter is constructed of waterproof canvas, leather, and brass. The single main compartment has capacity for a multi-tool, spare tube, and light jacket, and the zippered opening is covered by a rain flap held closed with brass snaps. Like the other Zimbale bags we reviewed, the overall construction of the 2 Liter is excellent. Once again, highly recommended.

Specifications
Size: 14cm diameter x 30cm wide
Capacity: 2 Liter
Colors: Olive, Black
Retail Price: $54

Where to Buy
Zimbale North America (U.S. Distributor) →
Harris Cyclery
VeloFred

Disclosure: Zimbale provided the bag for this review. You can view our review policy here.

19 Responses to “Zimbale 2 Liter Saddle Bag”

  • Sished says:

    I know it’s been debated before but this really does irk me, can anyone spot the difference: http://www.carradice.co.uk/index.php?page_id=product&under=range&product_id=59 ?

    There has to be something wrong about hijacking other companies heritage, design, innnovation, creativity. We as consumers should not support it.

  • Alan says:

    @Sished

    I struggle with this idea myself. How do you feel about the companies imitating Brooks saddles, Nitto handlebars, Wald baskets, Pletscher kickstands, Sigg bottles, Honjo fenders, etc., etc.? Those are just a few examples where older, well-established designs are closely imitated by newer manufacturers. There’s a line somewhere, and perhaps this bag represents going too far – I don’t know. One thing to point out is that Zimbale (and others) are not pirating in the strict sense of the word; in other words, they’re not branding their products illegally. Up until now, I’ve used that definitive line as my criteria, but I will consider your point carefully for future reviews.

    Thanks-
    Alan

  • RM Hampel says:

    If Sished hadn’t mentioned the obvious similarities between the two manufacturers’ products, I would have. It really bugs me to see anyone’s hard work copied and then made in a low cost country (read poorer working conditions, poorer environmental standards, etc). Some not negligible part of the economic mess we Westerners face is due to our own lazy purchasing decisions. Support manufacturers who do the right thing and we all benefit. I love to look into my Carradice bag and see that Priscilla made my bag (they sign the tags) because I know that Priscilla made a decent wage and her employer must treat her fairly.

  • bongobike says:

    Copying aesthetic design is as old as dirt. It’s done with every kind of product you can imagine from clothing to food packaging. I agree with Alan that as long as you are not infringing on a brand name, there is nothing wrong with copying a good design. Of course, the lack of creativity makes things pretty boring. Remember when different car makes looked different? Nowadays you don’t know if you are looking at a Toyota, a Mercedes or a Ford.

  • RM Hampel says:

    Don’t get me wrong, Korea, where Zimbale bags are made isn’t really the target of my concerns regarding working conditions and environmental standards. But when faced with a choice between an “original” product and an obvious copy…

  • Dweendaddy says:

    Well, the nice thing is that the bags are about the same price at Velofred: the Carradice bag is $55, and the Zimbale is $54. So you don’t have to choose on price alone!

  • Alan says:

    @RM Hampel

    I’m not insensitive to this issue and I’ll seriously consider yours and Sished’s feedback.

    Thanks-
    Alan

  • Thom says:

    When this style of bag was first popular (debatable as to exactly when, but they were extremely popular in the 1950s, for example), there were many manufactures making similar-looking bags. Same with leather saddles–it wasn’t just Brooks, there were dozens of firms. Same with fenders, handlebars, pedals, you name it. If you steal an actual pattern or blueprint and reproduce it exactly under a name like “Cannadice” or something, then that’s obviously a problem, but there’s nothing wrong with, as bongobike says above, imitating an aesthetic that appeals. I mean, I’d rather have a market full of beautiful bags like these than some black vinyl crap with logos that peel off from Walmart.

  • Apertome says:

    I’m with Thom … this is a beautiful bag, and it may be close to the Carradice, but to my eyes the Zimbale version looks even better. Also, considering how hard to come by Carradice bags are in the US, this is a great alternative.

  • Eddie says:

    I don’t own products from either company yet but it’s nice to know there are at least two choices for this particular bag. I’m uncertain whether the feature set between the two bags is identical – both bags share the same classic shape and size, are similar green material (are duck and canvas the same material?) and are waterproof, but from the description on Velofred I might choose the Zimbale for its lighter weight, internal support and double coating.

  • doug in seattle. says:

    What I would like to see is a direct comparison. Which one is better? Since they’re basically the same price, that’s the only criteria. If the Zimbale is better, that’s Carradice’s fault. It doesn’t matter how long you’ve been doing it if you’re not doing it the best.

    Also — do we know what the conditions and pay are int he factory where these are made? Just because it’s not Europeans making them doesn’t make it slave labor.

  • Dean Peddle says:

    Is it possible to see a picture of what you can fit in this bag ?

  • Alan says:

    @Dean

    I’ll see if I can take a photo for you this weekend.

    Alan

  • Doug R. says:

    Hey, I use both kinds of bags the Brooks and the nice Zimbale ones too! Why not try both like I do and draw your own conclusions? I actually prefer the Zimbale handle bar leather bags over the brooks! It is better leather and I like the magnetic buttons.

  • Sished says:

    Carradice have confirmed that they are aware of Zimbale a firm linked to their own (now former) distributor to Korea! When Carradice contacted the Korean distributor – who at the time still had an order in with them – he was told that the Zimbale bags were actually made in CHINA not Korea. The distributor denied any involvement but Carradice have since discovered that they are the same company. Needless to say Carradice no longer supply them and have taken legal advice on the matter.

    Legality aside, to my mind that kind of business practise is totally unethical. I’d suggest it’s completely at odds with EcoVelo’s underlying ethos. Like RM Hampel says above, ‘Support manufacturers who do the right thing and we all benefit’

  • RMHampel says:

    Thanks for the digging Shished.

  • Isaac says:

    Maybe the correct thing to do would be to remove this Zimbale publicity?
    I kind of agree with much of what’s been said. In reality good quality products will always be copied but this stinks a little too much.

    How about Carradice look at how they can better supply the US ?

  • Apertome says:

    I think people are jumping to conclusions. Does Sished have any references to support these claims? Is there an article with someone from Carradice discussing these issues? If so, I’d like to read it. I don’t think we should malign this company/product based on unsubstantiated blog comments, especially when their “copy” seems to be superior to the original product.

    IF Zimbale improperly got their hands on the Carradice designs, and used them to make their own products, then I agree, that stinks. But this is a very common, traditional design, and I’m going to presume that that is enough to explain the similarities, unless someone demonstrates otherwise.

    Very interesting discussion!

  • Alan says:

    The comments made by Simon (Sished) were quoted from an e-mail exchange with a representative from Carradice. Since it appears this could end up being a legal issue, I’m going to close the comments on this discussion. I’m looking into this, and if/when I receive information from an independent third party that clarifies the facts in the matter, I’ll at that point decide whether or not to pull the reviews. Thanks everyone, for your input.

    Alan

 
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