Short-Term Road Test: Civia Bryant

Civia was kind enough to loan me a prototype of their new Bryant commuter for a couple of weeks to put it through its paces and share my impressions with EcoVelo readers. I normally like to ride a bike for at least 4-6 weeks to get an in-depth picture of the bike before writing a review, but because of the excitement surrounding this bike I thought I’d go ahead and write a short-term review with the caveat that these are only my limited impressions based upon two weeks of riding.

Last week we took a first look at the Bryant, pointing out component details and going over the spec list. For this round I wanted to focus more on frame geometry, ride quality, and the overall package.

I’ve been looking at frame geometry charts and poring over component lists for so many years that I usually have a fairly good idea whether or not I’ll like a bike well before I ride it. I knew by looking at the charts that the Bryant would most likely be comfortable and easy to ride, with neutral-to-stable handling and no big surprises. To put the Bryant’s frame geometry in context, I created a table showing the Bryant’s numbers next to those of the popular Trek Pilot and Surly Long Haul Trucker.

Bike (all 58cm) Trek Pilot Civia Bryant Surly LHT
Head Tube Angle 73 degrees 72 degrees 72 degrees
Seat Tube Angle 72.8 degrees 73 degrees 72.5mm
Effective Top Tube Length 567mm 580mm 586mm
Chainstay Length 420mm 440mm 460mm
Fork Offset (rake) 45mm 45mm 45mm
Wheelbase 1005.0mm 1057.3mm 1066.7mm
Estimated Trail 56mm 63mm 65mm

The Trek is a sport/performance bike that has a more forgiving geometry than their pure racing bikes. The Surly is the most popular loaded touring bike on the market. The Bryant falls in the middle between the two. The Trek has quicker steering than either the Surly or the Bryant, both of which have stable steering optimized for carrying rear loads. The main difference in geometry between these bikes lies in the top tube and chainstay lengths. The Trek is short in both regards which makes it lighter and stiffer, but not ideal for hauling loads of any sort. The Surly, with its long chainstays, has enough heel clearance for even expedition-size rear panniers. The Bryant’s mid-length chainstays provide the appropriate amount of clearance for commuting panniers while still keeping the wheelbase a little tighter and more compact than the LHT’s.

The ride quality of the Bryant holds true to its spec sheet. The steering is neutral-to-stable and optimized for a rear load. The frame is plenty stiff for carrying a commuting load, but not as rigid as many aluminum frames or the touring-oriented LHT. The frame has just a touch of vertical compliance under my 160 lb. frame, though not as much as my Rivendell Sam Hillborne. The top tube is longish and should work well for riders with average to longer-than-average torsos. I happen to have long legs and a short torso, so I’d opt for a shorter stem if I owned this bike.

The best chromoly frames coming out of Taiwan today rival those we used to see coming out of Japan, and the Bryant’s frame is right up there in quality. The TIG welds are crisp and clean, the finish is smooth with no obvious orange-peeling or bubbles, and the frame details around the dropouts are impressive. The overall fit-and-finish is excellent for a production bike in this price range.

I already covered the Bryant’s component details in a previous post. To briefly recap, the highlight of the group is the Alfine IGH/Gates Carbon Drive/Versa brifter drivetrain. As I’ve previously stated (to ad nauseam at this point), this is an incredible drivetrain for year-round commuting and general utility riding. Again, it truly is one of the smoothest drivetrains I’ve encountered, and the low maintenance aspects of the internal gear hub and belt drive are real benefits for those who ride year-round in inclement weather. Being a prototype, the wheels on this bike were mismatched and the disc brakes were down-spec’d to Avid BB5’s. The production models will, of course, have matched wheels and the brakes will be the higher quality Avid BB7’s. The remainder of the components are nice quality and about what you’d expect on a bike in this price range.

The Civia Bryant should serve extremely well as a car replacement, particularly for those who have been riding road bikes and prefer an open, drop bar cockpit. The drivetrain is state-of-the-art, and the thoughtfully detailed chromoly steel frame is attractive and well-constructed. The handling is neutral and easy and the layout is well-suited to carrying rear commuting loads. Overall, I’d say the Bryant is a successful design that meets the needs of serious commuters. I’m very much looking forward to seeing the final production version when it hits the streets in April.

Specifications

MSRP: $1,630
Frame and Fork: Double Butted CroMoly Steel
Shifters: Versa Integrated shift / brake levers
Crankset: Civia Forged Alloy
Gearing: 50×24 w/ 8 speed internal
Brakes: Avid BB7 Road
Rear Hub: Shimano Alfine
Weight as Tested: Approximately 30.5 lbs.

Civia

Disclosure: Civia is a sponsor of this site and provided the bike for this review.

54 Responses to “Short-Term Road Test: Civia Bryant”

  • jnyyz says:

    Alan:

    one of the things that I don’t like about the Alfine hub is that the shifting is backwards with the trigger shifter. Does the brifter have similar issues?

  • Alan says:

    @jnyyz

    The large lever shifts to a higher gear, the smaller lever shifts down. I rarely ride brifters, but it seems natural to me…

    Alan

  • alan b says:

    Yes, what are your intial impressions of the Versa shifter?

    alan b

  • Alan says:

    @alan b

    “Yes, what are your intial impressions of the Versa shifter?”

    I’m not up to speed on the latest in STI-type shifters, but the Versa performed fine for me. It only took a few minutes to get used to the position of the levers, and I had no missed shifts, so I have no complaints.

    Alan

  • Tom says:

    Great review Alan, I think I want one.

    However, I’m stuck on this plain vanilla fork. Lacking any sort of curve, and absent any sort of crown even like the semi-retro crowns on the LHT, this fork really does look like something from a toy store bike. I don’t think I’m asking too much for such a fork @ $1,600+

  • Alan says:

    @Tom

    I’m partial to delicately raked forks too, though I think maybe we’re showing our age by stating such preferences… :-)

    There are plenty of bikes far more expensive than this one with straight blade forks. Here are a couple:

    http://www.ecovelo.info/2009/12/18/2010-co-motion-americano-rohloffgates-carbon-drive/

    http://www.ecovelo.info/2009/08/18/gallery-alans-independent-fabrication-club-racer/

    Alan

  • Matt Cunningham says:

    It drives me crazy when companies make commuting bikes without dynamo hubs on the front. It’s less bothersome if they include the hub and no lights (e.g., Raleigh Alley Way); it makes sense that which light you choose might be a more personal decision. But after installing a dynamo on my current commuter, I’ll never go back to lights that take batteries again (I LOVE not having to worry about dead batteries!).

  • Alan says:

    @Matt

    I’m not altogether sure this bike won’t come with a dyno hub (its counterpart, the Hyland, comes spec’d with an Alfine dyno hub). We’ll have to see once they get closer to production…

    Alan

  • Dweendaddy says:

    I am a huge fan of this site, but when it comes to reviews, I think you could be more clear when addressing conflicts of interest, like something at the top of the review stating if the product is made by one of your sponsors and whether or not they gave it to you. You should be commended for being fairly clear about these relationships: you do often mention something at the bottom (not with this post, but often) and did mention that Civia has lent you the bike (though you made it sound like it was more of a favor than a smart marketing move), but I think it could be made more clear.
    That said, even if you are just a puppet of the huge world dominating brands that sponsor you, like Civia and Rivendell, I’ll still read and enjoy your site!!

  • Larey says:

    Here’s a test I’d like to hear about — load it down with commuter gear and make a stop at a supermarket. Buy a couple more pounds than you intended and ride home in traffic on streets that are a little rough. Maybe include a couple sprints across busy intersections?

    I would be interested to see how the wheels/tires do under loaded conditions. It’s easy enough to mount a sturdier wheelsets on my non IGH bikes but if I bought this bike for a car substitute (as opposed to replacement) I would using the stock wheels.

    Thanks!

  • Alan says:

    @Dweendaddy

    I try to always make it clear where a product came from and whether it was provided by a sponsor; in fact, this is required by law. Somehow I had a brain fart and forgot to do so on this particular post, so I’ve added my usual official disclosure at the bottom. Thanks for the reminder.

    Regarding whether the loan of any bike is a smart marketing move or a favor, I like to think that it’s a win for all parties involved. The manufacturer gains some publicity, I get to ride a bike that I would otherwise not have access to which provides content for the blog and feeds by bike obsession, and the readers get to see close-up photos and hear my impressions (for what they’re worth) about bikes they might not be able to find at their local bike shop.

    Alan

  • William says:

    I’m not weight weenie, but I gotta say I’m a bit surprised that this bike weighs more than more fully-equiped Atlantis setup for touring.

  • David says:

    Regarding weight, a Hyland fitted with the Gates belt would probably come in about 4 lbs lighter and would probably only cost a few $100 more given Civia’s new pricing. How about it, Civia? Could you put a split dropout on the Hyland?

  • David says:

    I should clarify that I meant 3-4 lbs lighter than a Bryant (not a non-belted Hyland or an Atlantis). This is based on the delta between the 30.5 lbs for the Bryant listed above versus 28 lbs I saw elsewhere for the Hyland.

    Also, the Hyland can be purchased with a dyno, albeit with the crappy Shimano headlamp, and a Rohloff, both of which would be nice options for the Bryant but with a weight penalty relative to the equivalently-configured Hyland.

  • Doug R. says:

    Alan, I know what a tough job it is to be fair and critically kind as well. The political situations that surround the review process is loaded with land mines especially when it may be a potential sponsor’s bike that may be involved. You do a good job and I appreciate the reviews. Please remember that folks like Dweendaddy and I just want a more unbiased reporting because he and I may end up buying a bike based on a review. So, please place a bit of criticism on a faulty part or frame etc. when it is do! I know it is hard, but good reporting serves us all! You are a good reviewer dude!, just call it a dud when it is a dud. Keep it up! Dougman.

  • Ahmad says:

    Going back to your reply to jnyyz: When you say “The large lever shifts to a higher gear, the smaller lever shifts down”, do you mean ‘the larger lever shifts to a harder/faster gear, the smaller lever shifts toward the easier/slower gear’? Apologies for not understanding what is probably standard terminology.

    As always, thanks for the great preview, Alan

  • Alan says:

    @Doug R.

    Thanks for your input. The reality is that there’s not a heck of a lot to criticize when you’re talking about bikes like IF’s, Surly’s, Rivs, Civias, etc. Sure, a reviewer may have a personal bias against this part or that (I, for example, dislike twist shifters), but on bikes over $1200-$1500 you’re rarely going to find some kind of major flaw, or even a “faulty part” for that matter, regardless of the manufacturer. In high end bikes it’s mostly about comparing and contrasting their differences.

    Alan

  • Alan says:

    @Ahmad

    That’s correct! :-)

    Alan

  • randomray says:

    Interesting review . I too the think the front fork is just plain ugly . Good gravy with the current technology and materials choices I think they could do better then a K-Mart looking fork . How much does that fancy dancy carbon belt cost to replace ? It’s interesting but all I find is info from people wanting to sale me the next new thing ” belt drive ” . How is this better then a commuter bike from the 50’s or 60’s ? I’m wondering about a commuter bike in the $ 2000 range , not exactly something you can lean against the front of a convenience store for 15 minutes . More cost effective to keep buying $ 200 bikes and no heavier considering the chain you would need for this . I can see the touring and sport bike in this range but if this is what is required to be commuting cyclist ……

    Thoughtfully , Ray

  • Alan says:

    @Ray

    “I can see the touring and sport bike in this range but if this is what is required to be commuting cyclist ……”

    I’m sure it’s just me, but I don’t understand why folks are willing to spend more on sport bikes than on commuters to be used as car replacements. A large majority of my riding involves commuting and running errands, shopping, etc., so I enjoy having a nice bike for those purposes.

    Alan

  • Alan says:

    The folks at Civia let me know that the Bryant is going to be available in the various component specs shown on their website as base models, minus rack, fenders, and dyno hub. For those who want them, the rack and fenders will be available as an add on kit, and the dyno hub will be available as an upgrade as well. Details regarding options and pricing will be available on their website as they get closer to production.

    Alan

  • David says:

    Great, go out, start your own company, make and sell the bike you want, and get rich saving the world. Go all the way and donate your profits to worthy causes.

    Seriously, I sympathize with your viewpoint but Civia is doing what they think is the best thing for their brand/business. If the market as a whole feels as you do, they’ll fail. If not, they’ll succeed. Likely, it’ll be somewhere in-between and if another company comes out with a similar design that’s closer to your vision and more attractive to the market, it’ll have greater success and many manufacturers will add similar products.

    Civia monitors this board and I’m sure they’ll take your viewpoint into account. The Bryant isn’t my perfect commuter bike either, but it’s one of only a few that’s getting close. Unfortunately, none of them are cheap. I’ve made my wishes known on this thread and others (5 powertrains in particular) and I hope Civia pays attention. IMHO, the first company to make the exquivalent of a Tout Terrain Metropolitan at a more affordable price will have a smash hit on their hands, even if it does cost ~$2K.

  • Dolan Halbrook says:

    @bike salvation

    I think you’re being more than a tad unrealistic. Nice bikes are expensive these days. Deal with it. It has a kickstand mount. Reflectors are insanely easy to add. It really should have a dynohub standard, but at least it sounds like it will be an option. If the design were really compromised the angles would be much steeper and the chainstays much shorter, and a TIG welded steel frame can be made to ride in any number of ways — it’s not a recipe for anything necessarily. Also, this design was optimized for rear loads, not front loads. For those of us who commute in hilly, wet areas (Pacific NW anyone?) disc brakes are fantastic: they have better stopping power and the pads last a really, really long time.

    As David said, go start your own company or build up a Kogswell P/R to your liking. Whereas the Bryant isn’t perfect, it’s a pretty decent stab at what a lot of people are looking for.

  • Dave says:

    Well, apparently I’m in the minority here but I’m glad to see Civia, Breezer, Rivendell, Surly and any other quality bike builder get involved in producing higher-end “commuter” bikes. If you want a cheap mass produced bike that you’re not going to worry about getting bashed or stolen, there are plenty of Kmart, Walmart or Craigslist specials that you can get. This bike isn’t meant to be an “entry level” bike. Or rather, the level of entry is a lot higher on the socio-economic ladder. This is a bike that will get people out of their SUV.

    The point of this bike and similar bikes is that there are people that want a really good, high quality bike that they can use to commute to work. I have a long commute and when I get to work I park my bike in my cubicle. I don’t want to ride a “beater” because usually I’m the one that gets beat up. If it looks like crap and rides like crap, then I’m not going to want to ride it. I’m not going to load it up with a week’s worth of groceries, I’m going to pack my lunch and a change of clothes. I want a bike with high quality components and wheels. I want a sturdy, comfortable, reliable, low maintenance bike that I actually look forward to riding. I wil save more than $1600 a year in gasoline if I average riding to work twice a week.

    Personally, I think it’s exciting to see a wider range of options for purpose built commuter bikes.

  • Larey says:

    I agree with those who like to commute on better bikes. For short 1-2 mile trips I’d ride a beater and may even skip chaining up. But my shortest utility trip is 5mi one way so I want to go on a bike I enjoy riding and I do it often enough that I don’t mind paying a little more than is absolutely necessary.

    As far as companies selling fully rigged “Commuter Specific” bikes — I think that people who are looking at bikes that are in the $2K range already have very specific preferences for things like racks, lights, and even wheelsets. All I really want to pay for are the foundation items, like a front generator hub. Unless we’re talking a style kind of bike where the shape of the headlamp is more important than the specific beam pattern.

  • PJ says:

    Thanks everyone, this is all great feedback for us and believe it or not we do listen and do our best to respond. The Bryant was the result of feedback that we received from many folks who wanted steel instead of aluminum and belt drive instead of chain and so on.
    Well we came out with the Bryant and right away we started getting emails daily asking for a Hyland with a belt.
    Anyway keep it coming, it is the only way we will continue to grow as a company.
    I always like to look at my commutes as small daily tours.
    Take care and have a great new year!
    PJ
    Civia Cycles

  • Alastair says:

    I think there’s a bigger market than they’d realised for quality commuter orientated bikes, especially for those who cover longer distances. A year ago I started building up to a 40miles/64k daily commute. The first bike I bought was a mistake, a fast ‘sports hybrid’, nice weekend bike but not great at hauling me plus panniers over the rough roads. So I did some research and ended up building up my own starting with a Surly Crosscheck frameset. I then added the bits I thought would make a good commuter, multipositional handlebars, big flat grippy pedals, strong single chainset, SRAM I-9 hubgear, Mavic A719 rims 36h, full SKS guards, Madison Summit rack, Marathon Plus 700×35 tyres and Brooks B17 saddle. Weighs 35lbs compared to 22lbs for the sports hybrid but is so much comfier, especially when I’m tired and need to slump a bit. The Marathon Plus tyres alone weigh more than some complete wheelsets but, so far, they’ve done what they were meant to. But that lot set me back nearly $2500 and I didn’t get the dynohub I wanted, that’s this Winter, hopefully. I’d upgrade but I dream of things like a Rohloff, a titanium frame and the belt drive.

    But if you allow for the fact that I’ve paid full retail for all my bits then a decent commuting bike, that ticks all the boxes, at under $2k should be very achievable for the big manufacturers. How much do they want to do this though? Commuters want bikes that last for years, need as little maintenance/money spent as possible and aren’t seduced by bling. We do get steps forward like the Civia and a set of Brifters for the Alfine but you still have the ridiculous alfine wheel removal to contend with. SRAM and Rohloff are much better there but then you’re stuck with the twist shifter.

  • David says:

    PJ, please count me in for that belted Hyland in the Rohloff build. At a lower price, of course ;o)

  • Charlie says:

    I love this bike. To whoever said it’s just slapping a rack and fenders on a non-commuter bike, I disagree. The disk brakes and internal hub/belt drive really reduce grime and maintenance which is a real improvement for daily commute use.

    But I do agree with those who don’t like the fork–it’s not just an aesthetic issue. Bent forks absorb shock better.

    One other complaint is the lack of a quill stem. I was in Amsterdam recently. No bikes there have threadless headsets. Adjustability is a good thing. You might be able to nail your handlebar position and saw off your steerer now, but in 20 years, will you still want the same bar height? Lots of Dutch bikes have quick-release handlebar adjusts now too, in addition to the quill stem adjustable height. Headwind? Pause, lower the bars, and proceed.

  • Dan says:

    Excellent comments. Looking at the grand scheme of the price of a commuter vs. most other things in the consumer marketplace, I think bikes are a steel (pun) for what you get.

    Still, each commuters needs are different. I have a safe place to lock my bike at work and ride through all conditions on a hilly, rough 8 mile each way commute. So, I can spend a bit more on the bike without worrying about it being stolen, I need gears, fenders, disc’s, and carrying capacity. And if I can make it comfortable enough, I can not drive my car, not waste time on the bus, and enjoy myself every morning/night.

    I’m currently building a Salsa Fargo for that purpose and doing away with my twitchy Volpe.

    For back and forth to the grocery and around town, I don’t need gears (live in a valley, work in another valley on the other side of the hills), but do need carrying capacity and a value under $500 in case it gets stolen. Weight doesn’t matter as much since it’s flat. So all I need is a comfy seat, flat pedals, and I’m set.

    And for that, I’m currently riding a Raleigh One-Way with easy gearing, fenders, and upright bars…all bought used, so if it gets stolen, I won’t be crying…cursing, but not crying.

    All of our needs are different. I have no interest in the Civia, but I can see where some people would. Especially for the non-bikenuts who don’t know just what they need yet or are intimidated by buying from 5 different internet retailers and building a FrankenSurlyTourerCommuter.

    Whatever gets more people out of their cars, I’m all for and congratulate Civia on trying to build that brand.

  • Gearhead says:

    Where is the Bryant made? What brand and alloy steel is used?

  • PJ says:

    Hello
    The Bryant is made in Taiwan and it is our proprietary blend of 4130 steel.
    Thanks
    PJ

  • Alastair says:

    Alan, can I assume that the Versa Brifter is short pull brake compliant only? I’ve been trawling through and not able to verify this, but a lot of the pics on other sites seem to show road calipers. I’ve found I really like the Tektro RL520 combined with Midge flared drops and v-brakes. I can even add in cross top levers via Pauls Engineering but shifters reamin a problem. How hard would it be to combine the Tektro RL520 cable pull with the gear shifting abilites of a brifter? Ideally there’d be an option for derailler or hub gears, covering Shiman, SRAM and Rohloff, or am I pointlessly dreaming here?

  • Alan says:

    @Alastair

    The Versa brifter is designed specifically for road calipers. One option is to add Travel Agents to pull your V-Brakes:

    http://www.problemsolversbike.com/pdf/PS_travel_agent.pdf

    Alan

  • Alastair says:

    Thanks Alan, I’ve already been down the travel agent route and wasn’t too keen, they’re ok but do add a lot of complexity to brake setup. I was just curious if there was any reason that the brake cable pull technology of the Tektro RL520(or similar) couldn’t be combined with the shifting technology of an STI/ERGO? Other than a lack of will, or perceived demand, on the part of Shimano/SRAM/Campagnola.

  • Alexander says:

    Does anyone know what pedals those are? I’m looking for something similar. Thanks!

  • Alan says:

    @Alexander

    That’s the MKS “Touring Light” pedal…

    Alan

  • Paul says:

    The brakes are NOT Avid BB5 or BB7. Disappointingly, the production units are (POS) Tektro Lyra. This may be the proverbial straw that brakes [pun and typo intended] the camel’s back. I’ve really been looking forward to buying this bike. Since I initially lusted for this bike I found out: neither the fenders nor the rack is in the base price, they won’t sell it from the factory with a Schmidt SON dynamo, and now the switcheroo on the brakes. Maybe I should just wait until the Alfine 11-speed is a reality.

  • PJ says:

    Paul
    I wanted to let you know that after talking with dealers and consumers we have decided to go with the Avid BB7. We had made the move to the Tektro brakes to keep the MSRP at $1650; however after talking with everyone it seemed a higher MSRP was favored in order to keep the Avid brakes. The new info is up on the site and the MSRP is now $1680.
    The racks and fenders are not included; however the combo that would cost $100 if purchased individually will go for $75.
    Thanks and I hope this helps.
    PJ Ramstack
    Civia Cycles

  • David says:

    Paul, I think you made the right call on the brakes vs. MSRP tradeoff. You’re still close enough to the ~$1500 price point and far enough from the ~$2000 point that the price difference won’t do much damage but good brakes are key to the riding experience.

    On a related matter, how about offering a dyno option? For those of us in the Northern lattitudes, it’s a big help during dark commutes by eliminating the issue of forgetting to charge the battery. Even if you can’t do it for the launch, adding it as an option along with the 11 speed Alfine when it comes out will allow the Bryant to address the touring market segment with a very compelling configuration.

  • PJ says:

    David
    Glad to hear that you are supportive of the change, we value consumers thoughts and do our best to accommodate them when we can.
    We will not likely include it in most bikes going forward; we had enough feedback when we did this with the Hyland that shops and many consumers didn’t want it stock.
    So what we are doing is offering it as an upgrade on many of our bikes.
    So if you are looking at a Bryant and would like a Dyno hub front wheel let us know.
    There will be a charge for this and although I don’t have the exact amount it will be around $50.
    Take care,
    PJ

  • David says:

    PJ, sorry I mixed your name up with Paul in my previous post.

    I agree that making they dyno a stock item is probably not wise. A lot of people don’t want the added weight, drag, and cost. As long as it’s available as an option, that’s fine.

    I will be looking seriously at the Bryant when I get a new bike next year. As I said, the availability of an 11 speed Alfine (whether stock or optional) will be key. That will allow me to use the same bike for both commuting and touring without the ~$1000 upcharge for a Rohloff IGH. I think the Bryant will be particularly compelling for others like me because it’s steel, thereby eliminating concerns about frame durability associated with the Hyland, Breezer Finesse, and other Al-alloy comparables. Assuming you can keep it under $2K with dyno, 11 speed Alfine, rack, and fenders, it’ll give someone like me 90% of what the Tout Terrain Metropolitan offers for a lot less money.

  • Troy says:

    I am moving to Portland in the fall and would love to go car free. Put a dyno on the front hub and if the frame fits, I’ll buy one.

  • charles says:

    I like this bike and I am a bike commuter. My commute is 20 miles one way and I live in rainy Washington State so….. disc brakes, especially in traffic, make sense.
    A steel frame with “overly stiff tubes” is preferable for durability as I weigh in at 260 pounds. I would like the ability to take wider than 32 mm tires with fenders and am not sure if the frame can accommodate them based on the review.
    The rear load geometry is also sensible in a rainy climate since your “saddle bag” isn’t on the front of the bike and can be protected behind your thighs/legs and your rain jacket tail. The English had this figured out years ago unlike the front loading, baguette and wine carrying French, especially the ones living in the south.
    Lets face it, if you commute more than 5 miles one way you probably will appreciate a bike like this. The belt drive/gearing makes sense providing you don’t have too many steep climbs and the mess from rim brakes and greasy chain will not be missed. Just not sure of the ease of wheel removal regarding flat repairs but nothing is perfect I suppose.

  • i_joebot says:

    i just want to say that the photography on this site is spectacular. i really appreciate the close-up detail shots with the nice depth-of-field effect and beautiful scenery. it really sets this site apart from everything else.

    civia, i really dig the blend of subdued, retro-styling and state-of-the-art hardware. the steel frame is a hard sell for me only because of the weight (i dont really haul anything) – but i realize im kind of an odd-ball. despite this, im headed towards my nearest dealer tomorrow for a test ride. what is the primary drive ratio? would it be possible to put a 60-tooth cog on the front? i ask because this would put the extreme final drive ratios very close to my current road bike.

  • Alan says:

    @joebot

    Hey, thanks very much for the kind words.

    Gates does make a 60 “tooth” front sprocket. Since the Bryant doesn’t use a chain guard or front dérailleur, I don’t immediately see a reason why it wouldn’t work.

    http://www.carbondrivesystems.com/forbikemakers.php?lang=us

    You might contact the guys at Civia to confirm…

    Regards,
    Alan

  • DavidF says:

    @Alan and Joebot:
    From my experience with fitting our belt drive proto, there may be front sprocket/chainstay clearance issues with a 60T – our frame is marginal with a 55T. As Alan says, perhaps contact Civia directly.

  • sygyzy says:

    Civia describes the Bryant as a high speed, long distance commuter bike. For someone that’s just going around the city with the longest ride 15-20 miles to downtown, would this be too much like just riding a road bike? Would the Hyland be a better for this purpose?

  • Wei says:

    Goodness me, have you seen the photo of the Bryant chainguard on the Civia website? Click on the Bryant link on the Civia website and it shows a shot of what looks like a aluminium or stainless steel piece of goodness. It seems to have similar lines to the Loring chainguard but is finer and with beautiful cut outs. It is gorgeous!

  • Barry says:

    Test rode the Civia Bryant today. I was very happy with the performance of the components on the Alfine /belt model. I was surprisingly pleased with the frame. The geometry was perfect for a commuter going 20-30 miles each way, and it soaked up the harsh bumps riding over bricks. I’ll probably pick one up later this week.

  • Martin says:

    I bought the Civia Belt Alfine to avoid paying for a Tout Terrain Metropolitan. I have normally ridden “garage sale” bikes as my commuter, but no more. I love it. Schwalbe Marathon Winter 700×35 fits with fenders no problem. I use it with my Ortlieb Office Bag for work and grocery-type panniers for errands. For Bozeman (mostly flat,) the gearing is a bit low. For Duluth or other hilly towns, it would be perfect.

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