Since we’re chatting it up about Moustache Handlebars in the Sam H. thread below, I thought I’d post this page out of the 1992 Bridgestone catalog that chronicles their development. (Click on the zoom button to view a more legible size.)
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Some folks think that the brakes should be mounted more toward the stem. It looks like Riv prefers this position, though my Redline 925 was assembled with the brakes mounted like Bridgestone did it.
If you’re riding a tall stem like Riv outfits, then maybe it’s easier to reach all the way to the front-most curve. But on my 925, the bars are below the seat and reaching that far makes me go lower than I want. Even if the bars were level with the seat, it would require reaching further.
Plus, with the Bridgestone position, when you’re braking, your hands are on the outside curve, at a wider stance and with your weight distribution a little more even, for better control. Seems that this is nicer when you’re maneuvering at slower speed.
Any which way, I think the ‘stache bars are best for urban riding: ability to get fairly low and aero, very wide stance possible for climbing and starting from red lights, and a slew of hand positions.
Thanks for posting the catalog scan…it was a fun little read.
When the time comes to re-wrap the bars, I’ll have to play around with the lever positioning. So far, the reach feels good for me on this bike, I’m sure due to the Dirt Drop stem and up-sloping top tube.
I had a 925 for about a year and they’re deceptively sized. It goes right to the difference Alan mentioned about sloping up from the seat tube as opposed to down from the top tube. I bought it two sizes too big and the seat was just level with the stem, and the 60mm of extra top tube made the reach to the handlebars very uncomfortable. I went from the moustache to regular drops and then to a 1″ riser bar but I still couldn’t get it to fit right and it still ended up on CL. The experience made me distrustful of any kind of curved bar except north roads until I got a frame that fit me right. Now I know why people like drop bars and I think a lot of it has to do with the interplay between reach and height.
Speaking of wrapping the bars, can you comment from experience on what works best on moustache bars? Do you wrap them from the bottom-up like drop bars, or would it work best to wrap them top-down to avoid catching the edges of the tape while reaching for the brakes? Just curious, as I might like to try a pair of these at some point.
I imagine that the ad copy is Grant’s? Where can someone find a M bar these days like Type 2 that accepts mountain shifters and levers?
The bars on the Sam I just received came from Rivendell wrapped like drops.
I don’t believe the Type 2 has been available for a long time. Perhaps an upside down North Road would do the trick (with the right stem)?
love the Moustache Handlebars. I have em installed on a dahon. I seriously considered putting them on my Bike Friday Pocket Rocket, but I went with the Nitto rando bars.
Great bars because they give you the option ride both upright or fairly upright to stretched out.
And also very easy on my bad wrists.
I rub Nitto Staches on my current bike and am building up a new bike with them now. They put my wrists in by far the most comfortable positions of any handlebar that I have ever used.
I have Oury grips on my current set but will be wrapping my next set with Brooks tape and using inverse bar end brake levers on them (I’ll be using down tube shifters). I can’t imagine ever setting them up with road levers, it ruins the aesthetic for me.
@Alan: Your post reminded me about finding a new stem to raise my bars up. 75% of the time, I’m riding with my hands sandwiching the stem, because it’s the highest point of the moustache. If I swapped in the Dirt Drop, that’d probably bring the outside of the moustache to just about level with where the stem is now, making the whole bar work for me more.
The only reservation is that: 1) I’d like such a stem in black and 2) I wish it wouldn’t look as goofy as I know I’ll feel it’ll look.
“I wish it wouldnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t look as goofy as I know IÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ll feel itÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ll look.”
I actually really like the unique look of the Dirt Drop stem combined with Moustache bars, but I’m a little “goofy” myself… ;-)
I wish they would re-issue the Type-2s. I had one on an old Stumpjumper and it worked well. You can see them in some of these shots:
[...] admired the Moustache handlebar from afar after first seeing it in the Bridgestone catalog in 1992, but it wasn’t until purchasing my Rivendell Sam Hillborne in September of 2009 that I had a [...]