Just because the wood is so gorgeous.
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Gorgeous indeed. Is that real bamboo?
Yup, that’s the real deal.
Do all those little bolt heads poking up present a problem? I would think they would, especially on that rear rack if you wanted something to sit flat on it.
Thom’s exactly right – seems like they’re prizing form over function.
Five minutes of extra thought would have solved the bolt head problem.
LOL. Thom & Dan are exactly right. That’s hilarious – those bolt heads sticking up like that.
I just spoke with Josh at Civia, (very nice guy), and he says they are for “LOOKS”. I would think that a polished stainless steel flat head screw would be just as nice looking & much more practical. He says Burton Avery, who has a degree in Industrial Design & Engineering, is the designer of them and chose those over flatheads . :- )
BTW, those are certainly nice looking bikes. Frames are made in Taiwan and the bikes are put together in MN.
If the screw heads bother you, you can simply swap them out for some flat head screws, and even counter-sink them with a drill.
It’s real grass, right? Beautiful nonetheless.
Real grass, real bamboo, real screw heads, it’s all real folks… :-)
Mostly the rear rack is for carrying panniers, a rack trunk or an article of clothing, in which case the screw heads are a moot issue; it’s not wide enough to carry anything substantial on top anyway. Re the front rack – we carried a number of different items and never noticed the screws – I really don’t think it’s an problem.
My question was motivated more by my recent thinking about cargo and ways to DIY various racks and such, and less by any criticism about form v. function. Generally, I tend to think that the fewer little nobbies poking out, the better, but I’m hip to the design aspect, too.
Well, in the Netherlands it has always been the assumption that you can carry someone on the back rack of a regular bike. So screws sticking out on the rack is not done. As a general common-sense rule, I think protruding bolt heads and threads should be avoided in places where your body parts are likely to be.
It is interesting to see that this was a design choice. Most industrial design that I’ve been in contact with does the opposite. It sometimes goes to great lengths to hide bolts and other fasteners.
Simply gorgeous!!! I want one of each :)
Thanks for all your attention to the Loring racks. Ecovelo does a great job at showing bicycles in their best light. As an -Industrial Designer- who worked on the Civia Loring I wanted to clear up some miscommunication. The Loring that Ecovelo has is a prototype. One example of this is that the bolts on the racks are not the correct specification. The production level racks will have very different flat head hardware. The hardware will be very low profile- low enough that your butt wonÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t notice it, but I do not suggest sitting on the rear rack. Its not rated for that kind of load! Initially I specified the hardware to be countersunk into the bamboo planks, but the LoringÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s engineering lead rightly suggested that a countersink would attract water and compromise the rackÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s integrity over the long run.
Thanks again for your comments and happy riding.
I just built one of these for my sister. I’m a former mountain bike racer and bike mechanic, and she asked me to find her something for around $1000. I saw this and knew it’s what she needs. I’m very picky about bicycles and there’s very little on this bike that I don’t like. Most everything on this bike is of the highest quality to be expected, and much unexpected quality.
Some things I liked:
The kevlar beaded tires. I figured they’d go with steel to save a few bucks off the retail price. I was happily surprised.
The Real brake levers. Most of the pictures I’ve seen show some SRAM levers (I believe that’s what they are). I was happy with the black Real levers that shipped with her bike.
The nice Civia laser etching on the (surprisingly lightweight) handlebars. I am confident that the bars are as strong as they are beautiful.
Rubber feet on the Pletchser kickstand. I had ordered her some Greenfield feet not expecting it to come with them. Oh well, she’ll have extras :)
The beautiful chainring machining. I love the bare aluminum on black.
Some things to wish for:
I would’ve liked an ordering option for a dynamo hub and lights. I ordered her front and rear lights, some spoke reflector shaped lights, and some handlebar plug lights. I would’ve liked to spend a little more to not have to replace batteries. (Think of it as a sustainability option Civia :)
I honestly was quite displeased with the plastic cable housing guides under the frame. That’s the only thing on the bike that seems cheap. …that’s a pretty tiny thing to be bothered with which should also be considered a compliment that it’s all I found to complain about. With pricing as a consideration, I would happily trade the kevlar tires for aluminum cable guides any day on a bike of this weight and purpose.
I would like a spring loaded rear rack. …Maybe a bolt-on upgrade kit?!?! :D
In the coming years I expect to see a 29 inch wheel model. You know…just because it’s the trendy thing these days.
oh yeah…not a big deal, but it bugged me enough to spend an extra few dollars. I found out after I had assembled the bike that Loring makes a beautiful seatpost clamp. My sister’s bike shipped with a Salsa (it’s lovely!), but I would really have liked the one that matches the styling of her beautiful bike to have been shipped with it.
…and this type of bike should always include a bell! But since it didn’t, I got my sister one of them fancy Japanese brass bells :D (Why doesn’t QBP stock a high quality brass bell?)
All in all, this is one of the most beautiful and well built utility/cruiser/comfort bikes I’ve ever seen. And with everything that comes stock on them, they are really well priced. I would recommend this bike to anyone. If I could afford it, I’d get one for myself in a heartbeat!