RANS Ride and Carry Cargo System

Randy Schlitter from RANS sent me this preliminary report on the Ride and Carry (RAC) cargo system under development for RANS crank forward bikes.



Ride Report 70808
Date: 7-08-08
Rider: RJS/KAD
Bike:  Dynamik Duo

Testing For:
How the new RAC ( Ride And Carry) system works in the real world.

Conditions: Winds ENE 5 temps 84
Ride Distance:  7.25 miles
Calories: 346 (RJS)
Average V:  10 MPH
Max V: 25.1 MPH
Time:  43:24
Ascent: N/A
Average heart rate: 107
Max. Heart Rate: 133

Findings:
The numbers show we took it pretty easy, simulating an average couple out shopping. The distance ridden was not much, again within average reach. The handling is not affected, in fact the bike responds well with the added load. The downhill was fast, and of course the uphill had the feel of added weight.

The load was about 20 pounds of groceries, or $70 bucks. I wanted to haul a watermelon, and now that I know how well the bags keep shape with a load, we will next time.

I like several aspects of using the RAC on a tandem, it gets both of us shopping, and with some concern on how much we buy, that can mean a couple of things, less spending, and more trips. Note the calories even if double (700) is an example of a good return for the energy invested.

We did stop into a take and bake pizza place with the grocery load onboard. The pizza turned out easy to haul intact, simply letting it “potato chip” a bit worked to allow the pizza to fit inside the bag. If I were hauling a baked pizza in box, taking bungees would be wise, so strapping it to the top deck could be done.

I can see an insulated bag as Kelli our HR person suggest, to keep cool things cool, and maybe a built in bungee system to allow top loading. The RAC is the first proto, and has an open space between the bags, which is great for lifting the rear and droppind the kickstand. We will need to figure another way to drop the kick stand when heavy. Perhaps lifting bar the handle bars on a single seater will work.

Conclusions:
So far great, need more testing and try progressively heavier loads. Need to try how to raise and lower the kickstand with a heavy load.

Production should begin in a few weeks with a target price of $375 and some interesting features:

  • Bags remove easy and fit on either side.
  • Sides have net pockets and double small pockets for reaching down on a single to grab items like keys, phone, wallet.
  • There is an oversized load flap that secures the load when an item or item extend above the bag volume.
  • Reflectors, grab handles abound.
  • The system will include an insulated bag big enough for a gallon of milk.
  • They are hoping for a weight capacity in the 75 pound range. Will confirm with more testing.
  • The rack itself is made of 1″ aircraft aluminum tubing, has two settings for installing on both geometries of their CF’s.
  • They will be available in many colors with complimenting or contrasting trims, and are home-sewn in heavy Cordura at the RANS factory. All made in the USA.

If you have questions, ask away in the comment section below as I know Randy drops in here and I’m sure he’d be happy to provide answers.

14 Responses to “RANS Ride and Carry Cargo System”

  • Nanda says:

    It’s a slick system, and fortunately I was on the seen as he was installing the first set in the RANS sew shop :)

  • Mary Buckwalter says:

    Nice work on the cargo bike. Today I hauled 20 lbs of groceries in grocery panniers on the Fusion – easy 8 miile roudtrip. (My cost $40.) I needed an insulatetd bag as an add-on to keep the eggs and cheese cool on this hot day. Making one of those bags insulated definitely a good idea. Can’t wait for the final product. Btw, my first supermarket outing and I did not break one egg!

  • Mary Buckwalter says:

    I forgot to add that I was able to carry my bags into the supermarket and load them up at checkout. That would be nice, too. The supermarket gave me a credit for using my own bags.

  • Marty says:

    Love the design. It reminds me of my Cannondale bags. Would it have internal stiffiners to hold it’s shape when empty? A super feature would be an attached rain cover like the Arkel Tailerider. That would add touring capabilities too.

  • Randy Schlitter says:

    Many of the features mentioned here may find their way into the system. Taking them into the store should be possible, the rain fly also, and yes they are self supporting. We also want to allow you to pick colors, similar to what Timbuk2 does with thier bags. We want this to be function, beautiful, personalized and fun!

  • andy parmentier says:

    this is GREAT. it was easy to see this coming (RANS meets XTRACYCLE) but i did’nt realize that the rans dropouts are already their own xtracycle frame, practically.

  • Chris from DE says:

    My question: is there any way to attach a child seat to one of these crank-forward bikes? That would be a huge plus for me as I think about a possible next bike…

    Thanks,
    Chris from DE

  • dave says:

    Is it too early to see some photos of how the RAC attaches to the current CF frame? Is there any built-in provision for a top deck, similar to the Snapdeck of the X?

    Thank you for developing this add-on to make the current CF bikes more errand-friendly!

  • Tim Guthrie says:

    I want a good grocery hauling system. I have five kids, and we buy alot of food!. So far on my bike grocery runs I have put a LARGE cooler in a kid hauler bike trailer. The only problem is with my RAns Stratus XP, the contraption is now too long to park at the grocery store. I wouyld love to buy a Crank Forward with HUGE grocery houling avalability back and front!

    Randy, have a front system designed next!, and maybe then I can haul $200 worth of produce and milk! Or improve on the extracycle idea and make a CF that can haul as much as a “big dummy”. Think cargo bike!

    Also Randy, I am a possible future comsumer for a Stratus XP style tandem that I know you must have on the drawing boards.

    BTW I love my Stratus XP and ride to work 41 miles round trip about 2x per week.

    PS. You should make a CF commuter with fenders, rack and lights standard, and electric assist optional. Market it big time as a new idea(I mean nationally). Few manufacturers are making off the shelf commuter bikes yet and somebody needs to step up to the plate.

  • Randy Schlitter says:

    Chris
    Adding a top deck and child seats are possible, we would like to adapt or simply try some and point the way to that brand.

    Tim
    The current RAC is huge, should be able to haul a serious amount of food. I have drawn up a “box” bike, and like to someday soon try one out. The tandem XP would be very aggresive project, have not played with it.
    The bike we are making that is purpose built is going to quite an features and options list, things like: Bags, slings, load runner, and top deck

    We still want to make a bike that adapt to all the great Xtracycle equipment, but first out will be the purpose built bike.

  • Tim says:

    Randy,

    Sounds great!!!!

    Huge fan of your products, the my stratus XP in particular, but can see a cargo CF in my future.

    Tim

  • Roy Reinarz says:

    Randy

    That looks like it would work on my Dynamik.

    How about an under seat bag? This bag would serve the same purpose and be about the same size as a handle bar bag. I need it for extra clothing, foul weather gear, lunch, snacks, first aid kit, camera, and water. The plastic seat already has holes in it for attachment. You already offer bags for your recumbent seats,

    roy

  • Randy Schlitter says:

    Roy,
    We have tried some under seat bags, and the 09 CF seats features slots to attach just such a bag. You should see something in the 09 line up on this. Using the holes has been looked at, but may have to look again, since it would offer a lot of bikes in the feild the option.

  • james says:

    Hi Randy greetings from the U.K. i love the look or the cargo system and have been holding out on buying a cargo bike . I have a custom CF street that i am building over here with SRAM imotion 9 speed hub disc brakes and son dynamo system with custom paint job . will the ride and carry system fit the street and also if a snapdeck could be made how much weight could it handle ( girlfriend or daughter down to the beach ? ) thanks James

 
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